Pass line bet & 2 come bets.
- Make a pass line bet
- Back it up w/ 2x odds
- Make a come line bet
- Backup each come bet w/ 2x odds (max. 2 come bets)
- When your come/pass bets wins, make another - keep 3 working bets
- Continue this process until 7
* My modification: bet 2 units on come/pass, IF:
- You've already covered the 6&8; or
- You haven't covered the 6 or 8.
This covers you when you're most vulnerable to the 7 in #1 & in #2, you're hedging against the 7, while hoping to land an inside point. also, slowly begin to increase units after winning 3 bets on one shooter.
$22 inside on the come out roll.
- If hit by a 7 on the come out roll you double up, if you collected one bet you half double up, and if you collect 2 bets you go with the same bet.
- On the 2nd hit you take down the 5 or 9, I use the 6 for the 5 and the 8 for the 9, and on the next collection all bets down until next 7 shows and you go back to square one. $22 inside,,,,that's it. Easy. But good size bankroll needed to protect you.
Do not make a pass/don't pass bet.
- After a point is established, make a $18 bet on the 6 & 8.
- On the first hit ($21 win) you would cut back your bets on the 6 & 8 to $6 each.
- You are now risking only $12.
- On the second hit on the 6 or 8 you would place the 5 & 9 for $5 each.
- If a 5,6,8,9 is thrown you collect your winnings and take down your bets.
- Don't make any more bets till the next point.
- Downside is a seven before your first 6 or 8 is hit.
Good for a choppy table.
New shooter: Bet the pass with odds from the beginning. Wait for 3 place numbers to be rolled after the initial point is established. Then start betting the come with odds and stay on the come bets with odds until the end of the roll. No pressing or regression. Even when you have all the numbers covered, which does happen several times during a typical session, keep making your come bets on that shooter's roll until the end of the roll.For $5 base and single odds, need $700 session bankroll. Recommend 65 to 70 times your combined single bet (base plus odds bet combined) session bankroll to give you the best chance of winning per session.Has been profitable for 62 sessions now, with overall win rate( after losses are factored in) of $86 per session betting mostly double odds with $5 base bet. By waiting the 3 place points to be rolled before starting the come bets, you are reducing your losses on the many early 7 out shooters, and by staying on the come once you start you do get maximum profits out of a good roll. And that is why I believe it has been successful for 62 sessions, along with the fact that you are making the best bets on the table (lowest house advantage) which are the pass-odds and come-odds bets.
- I start with $140. bet $110 inside and $15 each 4 & 10.
- If a number is hit I drop to $96 across. After I hit one more I come done to $54 across leaving one number out. You should have all your money back on average.
- Then you press in a pyramid. 3 presses on 6& 8 before you take, twice on 5& 9 before you take & once on 4& 10. The more you get up through the course of the play you start to pyramid more 4 presses on 6&8 , 3 on 5&9 twice on 4&10 and so on.
Wait for point to get established.
- Then place a 12 dollar 6 and 8.
- If either one hits drop 4 dollars go to 30.
- If 30 dollar bet hits drop 1 dollar go to 66.
- If the 66 dollar bet hits drop 7 dollars go to 150.
- 150 dollar bet hits take 175 in winnings.
- 150 dollar bet hits again drop 5 dollars go to 330.
- 330 bet hits again drop 5 dollars go to 720.
- 720 dollar bet hits go to 1200 take 380 in winnings.
- This method is based off a 1000 dollar max table if it is 2000 max on the 1200 bet just full press to 2400 on next hit.
Now if you want to break the bank you can go further.
- Once your place bet is at table max take 600 dollars and tell the dealer you want a 100 dollar put bet on the 6 or 8 which ever is maxed and 500 dollar odds,
- Hits again do a $250 put bet with $1250 odds, hits again $500 put bet with $2500 odds, hits again $1000 put bet $5000 odds.
At the end you will have a $1200 place bet and $1000 put bet and $5000 odds.One hit off of that will win you $8,400. Good luck.
The point here is to win on any number thrown before a 7.
- You make a $10 bet on the 5, $12 on the 6, $12 on the 8 and $5 in the field. Now you have every number covered except the 7.
- What you want now is for three numbers to come up before a 7. You should take your bets down after three hits because most shooters will 7 out by the 4th roll.
- For a $39 outlay you can win between $15 and $30 if the 7 doesn't show.
- Downside is an early 7.
This method is good a choppy table.
The whole concept of craps obviously (for right players) is to avoid the 7 after the come out roll. Even on the come out roll, which is really no different than any other roll as far as the odds for a 7 showing, is a factor in my method.I do not play the pass-line (except when I am shooting because I have to)I place 3 units each on 3 numbers (a unit can be as low as $5 or as high as you want to go-for this example we will use $5). I bet on what I call either down-town, 4,5&6, or uptown 8,9&10. You now have $48. action and I have the bets working on the come-out roll.On your first hit, you bring everything down to 1 unit each, leaving $16 on the board. Taking in either $21 on the 5/9, or 6/8 and $30 on the 4/10, leaving you with a net profit of $5 or $15, depending on which number hit plus all the money on the board is the house's money.What you do from here is entirely up to you according to how aggressive or conservative I am aggressive and with each hit I will increase a unit on the opposite number, i.e. if a 6 hits I bet 8, if a 9 hits I bet 5, etc. When the numbers have two units or more I will press 2 numbers 1 unit each. if 4 hits bet 1 unit more 4 and 10.Obviously the exposure is before the first hit, anything after that you are using the casino's money.The reason I do not play the pass-line is that the return, even with back-up odds, is less than if you put that full amount, (pass-line bet plus odds bet) directly placed on the number itself.
Take $17 and run it up to $143:
- Place $12 on the # 6 OR # 8. When it hits drop $4 and go to $30 total. ($12 divide by $6=2x$7=$14+$12=$26=$4=$30)
- You now have $30 on either #6 or #8
- You got $30 bet. Another hit drop $1 and go to $66 total. ($30 divide by $6=5x$7=$35+$1=$36+$30=$$66 total)
- You got $66 bet after 2 hits so far. You could move it to the opposite number if you wanted to, EITHER #6 or #8, its up to you, or just leave it alone.
- NEXT HIT you collect $143 and down.
- Not bad for $17 invested. ($66 divide by $6=11x$7=$77+$66=$143)
One variation of the 6 or 8 method:
- The only difference is to place a $14.00 bet on the 6 or 8 to get $16.00 return which then presses to $30.00
- The next hit drop a dollar to press to $66.00.
- This gives you a $143. on a $15.00 investment
I have noticed the difficulty any shooter has making 3 points. But once he does he usually goes on to make at least 1 more, sometimes several more. I have tried to formulate a system that will protect the player from this "time of trial" until a "qualified shooter" appears. I will detail the basics and you can add your own improvements, hedges, place bets, DC, and come bets etc.
- 1st bet- table minimum, no odds.
- 2nd bet- if first bet wins table minimum, single odds.
- 3rd bet- table minimum, double odds.
Based on each point being a 6 or 8 at a $5 table, if you won all 3 bets your profit would be $33, not including any other bets you won or lost.If you lose the first bet you are down $5.If you lose the 2nd bet you break even on your line bet and the same holds true for the 3rd bet.If any of the winning bets with odds were out side no's you would show a small profit. I have seen too many players go broke on line bets alone. Wait until he makes those vital 3 points and in the process if he is throwing no's get some place bets down and take them down or turn them off after a few rolls on the 3rd point. After that 3rd point is made go to double or triple minimum using the same odds structure so you maintain that break even edge on your line bet. GOOD LUCK
For the last five years I've been a dealer at a Harrah's casino and I can say I've seen just about every system there is. (10 hours a day for 5 years is a lot of rolls) At times it gets boring and we try to come up with ways to pass the time. This is where the army system came from.What you are basically doing is starting with the four and moving to the ten each time a number hits, thus the army bet. (we going to march the army on down the line) In the long run if it works you will turn $5 into $1500. It doesn't work often but I have seen it happen usually once a night. One time happened 3 times in 40 minutes.Here goes:
- $5 each- 4 and 10 working on the come out
- If and when the 4 hits, drop a dollar and combine the 4 and 10 to a $20 5
- Visa versa if the ten hits ($20 9)
- When the 5 or 9 hit you go to a $48 6 or 8
- When the 6 or 8 hit you go to a $102 8 or 6 (here you get $2 back investment now=$9
- When the 8 or 6 hit you go to a $220 9 or 5 (here you get $1 back investment now=$8
- When the 9 or 5 hit you go to a $500 10 or 4 (another $3 back investment=$5
- If you get a 4 or 10 you come $1500 and down
This system requires patience and can be used with your own system as a side bet you can change the dollar amounts and it doesn't matter if the number your is the shooters point. Remember your investment and don't get chicken at the end.***The first time I tried this in a casino I brought down my $102 8, the next number was a nine and 10 minutes later he rolled the 10. I made $500 on the roll with my place bets, but that's no $1500 from $5.
After the come out roll:
- 1st bet- $15 on # 9. Say it wins, payoff is $21. Tell stickman to make it look like $36 and move it to the #8.
- Payoff =$15 + $21=$36
- 2nd bet- you got $36 on the #8. Say it wins, payoff is $42. Tell stickman to make it look like $78 and move it to the #6.
- Payoff =$36+ $42=$78
- 3rd and final bet- $78 is riding on the #6. Say it wins, payoff is 13 x $7= $91 + $78 = $169 - $15= $154 profit
Not a bad way to make money. Good luck
New shooter, await the come out and the point to be established, then wait for 1 more place point to be rolled which equates to two place numbers rolled by the new shooter.
- Then bet $24 on each the 6 and 8.
- Then after only one hit on either, reduce your bet to $12 each on the 6 and 8 and keep the same $12 bet until the end of that shooter's roll. No pressing.
- To be safe you need 20 times your combined bet($48), which is about $1000 per session. Have not even come close to losing yet in over 100 hours of playing. You should win consistently and never seem to get in too deep a hole as in most systems.
Remember on the new shooter to wait until one more place number to be rolled after the point is established to avoid the many terrible early 7 shooters and give yourself the best chance of winning. After you make the first hit-win on the shooter you will win $28 on your initial $24 bet on the 6 or 8, this will make sure you win on that shooter's roll.Second point: By keeping your bet up at the reduced $12 on each of the 6-8 after the initial win on that shooter you can take advantage of the 6-8 shooters that roll many of these winning clumps.
Step 1. Buy in for $100. to $500
- Wait for a 4 or 10 to get established. If you are a $100 buy in person you would place $54. across. That breaks down to 4($10) 5($10) 6($12) 8($12) 9($10), assuming the point is 10!
- You then let the shooter hit 2 numbers and then turn your place bets "off".--you will miss out on several hot shooters, and the huge pay day, but you avoid the guy who rolls 6, 8, 7out. Depending on what numbers have been hit means you would have made a profit of between $28. and $36.
Step 2. You do the exact same thing as step 1. If you do this successfully, you should be up between $56. and $72.Step 3. You now increase your bets. Still wait for a 4 or 10 to be established as the point. ( I have seen in my experience that 6's and 8's seem to draw the 7 out a lot faster than 4's and 10's...... you may disagree...)
- You now take your original bet of $54. and add your profit to it. $54. for a total bet of $108. across. Hope the shooter catches 2 of your numbers and then turn them off. You would have just made between $56. and $72. for a grand total of $112. - $144.... You can now play using only profit from the casino.
This is a lower risk progression, however it always seems that a bad shooter pops up when you least expect it!I have played this progression in casino's and turned my original $54. across bet into over $5,000.
Stating at $6 each on both 6 and 8.
- First hit-I drop $5 and press them to $12 each. At this point I am $17 at risk.
- Second hit- press one unit to $18 each collect $2.
- Third hit-same bet, collect $21.
- Fourth hit-drop $3 and press both to $30 each.
- Hit five-same bet collect $35.
- Hit six- drop $1 press each to $48.
- Hit seven-collect $56. Regress to $12 each and take $72 off the table.
- Hit eight- press one unit to $18 each.
- Hit nine- drop $3 and press each to $30.
- Hit ten- collect $56 and take me down.
I just came back from Vegas in which I won about $2,200. I brought $300 to the table.
- I began by using a $15 (I used $15 all the time) place bet.
- Then, if the point is a 4, 9, or 10 I put $30 on 6 and $30 on 8, $25 on 5, and $10 on the field. I specifically don't play the odds so that I may use that money on the 6 and 8 which are more likely to hit.
- I wait for three hits (since 4 is about the average time before a 7 appears) and then take all money down.
- If the point is 6 or 8, I moved the $30 from one number and pressed it on the other. I would also take full odds.
- If the 5 is point, I put $30 on both 6 and 8, $10 on the field and match my $15 place bet with $15 odds.
Using this method I was able to make about $500 in about 30 minutes. Now using about $500 of the houses money, I would use the same method, but increase my 6 and 8 bets (given a 4, 9, or 10 is the point) to $90 or $120 each. I also then placed $50 on 5 and $25 on the field and still using a $15 place bet. Two or three hits and I take down. A few times I got a little greedy and lost about $400 after already hitting 3 times. If I wasn't so greedy I could have easily had about $3000 more to my winning, but we live and learn. The numbers may not add up as far as the odds are concerned, but the bottom line is that once I started using the house's money I increased my bets to the point that at any one time if I didn't hit I would be right back where I started from and not in the negative.Just to add, I don't do odds bets on 4, 9, and 10. I play the field which concentrates more money on more numbers to include the 4, 9, 10. Also, the field bet should be more than the place bet if the point is 5. This way I still make money if the point is made.
These are the two best numbers to place bet.There are five ways to make a 6 and five ways to make an 8. That's 10 ways to make either number. A 7 can be made in six ways.You can place bet a number that is also the point. A place bet can be taken down or made off at anytime. A place bet on either number pays 6 to 5.All you have to do is have either or the same number hit twice before a 7 and you'll show a profit.Downside here is an early 7 or no 6 or 8 being thrown before a 7.This method is good to start play at a table and good for a choppy table. It can also be used on a hot table. You have to press your bet after every other hit for the life of the roll.
$32 across working on the come out, 5-5-6-6-5-5.
- On each collection take that unit down. 3 collections and all down until the next 7 and repeat.
- If hit with a 7 before 3 collections you Martingale your bets and do the same thing, 3 collections and all down and back to start.
- On the $32 across bet if you collect once or twice you just go $32 across, no increase. And no increase at any level if two collections made, just repeat previous bet or you can add 1 unit to each bet if happens more than once....that's it...
- Have fun
Here's the system I use on the craps table. You must start at a $350 buy-in or more, otherwise you'll play scared. There are two ways to play this system based on how the table is running. You determine this by how many inside numbers are being thrown on average whether its 1-3 or 3-5. Chart the table before you jump in. Have at least two different shooters in a row throw at least two inside numbers. If one shooter throws fourteen inside numbers then sevens and the next guy/gal throws a 2,11,10,8,3,4 and then sevens out you cannot play yet. When the chart is successful you jump in:
- Bypass the come out
- Place the six and eight for $12 each and the five and nine for $5 each.
- If the first throw after the point is a five or nine you regress both the six and eight to $6 each and leave the five and nine at $5 each.
- Second hit take everything down if the shooters you charted were only throwing on avg. 2 or 3 insides. If they were throwing more come down on the five and nine.
- You now have a $2 profit and $12 on the table. Next hit on the six or eight, place the five and nine. You are now risking a dollar to win $28 with one more hit. Down on everything after that fourth hit.
- If the first throw is a six or eight I would regress both to $6 each and leave the five and nine up, take two more hits on any combination then down until a profit of $50 is reached (2 successful series) You can come down on the five and nine if the table has been cold and just wait for another hit on the six and eight before coming back up on the five and nine.
NOTE: If at anytime two shooters in a row seven out before getting any hits you must stop playing until the table has been charted again. If when you jump back after a successful chart and you get whacked leave the table.When that $50 is reached you can stay out for an extra hit or continue the same way. If a profit of $100 is reached you can go to a higher betting level
Just got back from Vegas and had great success with a limited bankroll.
- I buy in at every session for $200.
- I immediately put $100 in my pocket.
- If I lost $100, I walked away and found a new table.
- I begin by placing a $5 pass line bet. I did not press the winning pass line bets, so $5 is what I used nearly the entire time.
- When a point was established, I would place $18 on both the 6 and 8.
- I collected two $21 hits before pressing anything and also took full free odds (3X-4X-5X).
- After two hits, I would press up to $30 for each, then up to $42, and finally, up to $60. If the Point was either a 6 or 8, I would only play the other pair (6 or 8) for $18. It basically looks like this:
- $5 Pass on come out roll. Point established (ex. #5).
- Took full odds ($20) and placed $18 on each the 6 and 8. As far as money on the table, we are talking about $61.
- First hit (either 6 or 8), collect $21.
- Second hit (either 6 or 8), collect $21.
- Third hit (either 6 or 8), press the hit number up to $30.
- Fourth hit (either 6 or 8), press the opposite number up to $30.
- Fifth hit (either 6 or 8), collect $35.
- Sixth hit (either 6 or 8), press the hit number up to $42.
- Seventh hit (either 6 or 8), press the opposite number up to $42.
- Eighth hit (either 6 or 8), collect $49.
- Ninth hit (either 6 or 8), press the hit number up to $60.
- Tenth hit (either 6 or 8), press the opposite number up to $60.
- Eleventh hit (either 6 or 8), Take down both numbers.
When a Pass Line Point is made, collect your pass line bet and full odds. After come out roll, resume the count (don't start over). In other words, if you are on the fifth hit and have just collected $35, and the point (ex. #5) is made, begin at that point after the next come out roll.
